The Bayntun Pedigree for earlier generations of the family is uncertain and a topic continued conversation

 

 

Married:
UNKNOWN

Children:
WALTER BAYNTUN
(Son and heir c1242)

HENRY(died fighting in Brittany in 1201)



William Marshal, a Knights Tale – https://vlc-uk.tumblr.com/post/160673073918/william-marshal

The Bayntun family were an influential crusading family, whose men had travelled to the Holy Land with King Henry II. However the medieval pedigree is uncertain.

Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland differ from some websites (including this one) as to the line of succession from the early generations of the Bayntun family. Genealogy (commonly known as family history) understands a progenitor to be the earliest recorded ancestor of a consanguineous family group of descendants. In the case of the Bayntun family, it is not possible to draw an accurate EARLY pedigree of this great family, nor to accurately confirm dates and knighthoods before the year 1300.

The website: Stirnet.com – https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/bb4ae/bayntun1.php is a good source of information and represents something of a compromise to those generations listed below and so may not be fully accurate either. However for the purpose of moving forward with documented proof from the middle of the 13th century, the following is a combination of the pedigrees of the family from various sources.

Sidney, in his Treatise on Government, affirms that, in antiquity of possession and name, few of the nobility equal the family of Bayntun. From a very curious pedigree preserved in the British Museum, it appears in the time of Henry II, the Bayntuns were Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, with Sir. Henry Bayntun being Knight Marshall to King Henry II during his reign. Although there is no proof of this appointment we must treat this with scepticism, although he may well have been a member of the Knights in a different capacity.

The earliest known ancestor or progenitor of this family documented to history is said to be:

Sir Henry de Bainton
Born before 1007

Sir Henry had a son named:
Sir John de Bainton
Born before 1042

Sir John's son was named:
Sir Ralph Bainton
Born before 1078
and he is said to have married ELEANOR EYNGROVE – The daughter of Sir Simon Eyngrove.

Sir Ralph and Eleanor had a son called:
Sir Ralph Bainton
Born before 1149
and he is said to have married MAUD OBINGTON – The daughter of Sir John Obington.

Sir Ralph and Maud had a son called:
Sir Ralph Bainton
Birth unknown
and he is said to have married MARGARET BURWASH – The daughter of Stephen Burwash.

Sir Ralph and Margaret had a son called:
Henry Bainton
Born before 1189

Sir Henry had a son called:
Walter Bainton
Born c. 1242

Sir Ralph and Margaret had a son called:
Henry Bainton
Born c. 1262
and he was said to have married JANE SINTON.

Sidney's Lineage is as follows:

Sir Henry Bayntun
Knight Marshal of the Household to Henry II.

His heir was:
John Bayntun

His heir was:
Sir Ralph Bayntun
and he is said to have married ELEANOR EYNGROVE – The daughter of Sir Simon Eyngrove.

His heir was:
Sir Ralph Bayntun
and he is said to have married MAUD OBINGTON – The daughter of Sir John Obington.

His heir was:
Sir Ralph Bayntun
and he is said to have married MARGARET BURWASH – The daughter of Stephen Burwash.

His heir was:
Henry Bayntun
and he is said to have married JANE SEATON.

 

Interestingly, Sidney places Henry Bayntun (the spposed Knight Marshall) at the beginning of the pedigree, as does Stirnet.com whereas the dates are missing and therefore not easy to compare.

I would welcome any further discussion on this pedigree or any suggestions that may fit in better with the lineage or if anyone has access to other pedigrees that can confirm more accurate dates.

Without further proof, and for the benefit of the remainder of the family lineage, we begin from here with:
Sir Henry Bayntun

 


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